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Cavalier USS-8-64 Need a neutral wire for lights

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thefuzz4
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Cavalier USS-8-64 Need a neutral wire for lights

Hey Everyone,

Was hoping someone could tell me a good spot on the machine to tap into a neutral. Here is what I'm going to do.
I do a lot with home automation. I have 2 wireless switches that I would like to put into the machine to control the lights. Mainly turn them off during the day and then turn them on at sunset and run till like midnight and then turn the lights back off. I might even go as far to add a door sensor to the machine to turn on the door light when the door opens. Haven't fully decided on that part just yet. The thing is, is that all of the wires that I can see behind the front door where the coin mech lives all appear to be hot and not neutrals. I have to have a neutral in order for my switches to function. The only thing that I see right now that might be a neutral is on the wire for the enjoy a coke and use correct change bulbs. This neutral is only for the switch and will have nothing to do with the wire going to the light bulb. Although if I can get to the neutral of the florescent tube I'll gladly tap into that as well.

RGump
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Find AC Neutral Wire in Vending Machine

thefuzz4,
If it were me I would tap into the neutral wire at the fluorescent light transformer. That way you have less chance of messing up the functioning of the machine.

RGump

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Hey RGump I've been looking

Hey RGump I've been looking at the wiring diagram for the fluorescent for the marquee sign. I see a blue and a black coming in. Typically black means hot. It comes in goes through the ballast and then off to the tube. The blue comes in and goes to a wire nut which then changes it to black and it goes off to the starter and then other end of the tube. So do you think that the blue would be the neutral since I know that you have to have the hot go through the ballast?

It looks just like this https://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/grindthepuck/2013-09-19_19-37-15_134-1.jpg

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Testing for AC Hot Wire

thefuzz4,
Usualy the black wire is hot in AC, but to be sure you should test with a multimeter. This link tells how to do it pretty clearly:
https://www.hunker.com/13414118/how-to-detect-a-hot-electrical-wire
(Sorry, you'll have to cut & paste the link, a lot problrms with spam around here.)

RGump

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Thanks

RGump thanks for the link. This is something I've wanted to know for a bit anyways so it will be nice to learn how to do this.